Comments on: An Evening with Rob Bell, Doug Pagitt and Todd Hunter http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/ Random Thoughts, Stories of Life, and Questions About the Journey. Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:35:53 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Roxanne Blanco-Mitchell http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-4068 Roxanne Blanco-Mitchell Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:33:38 +0000 http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/#comment-4068 Rose, Sorry to hear about your Dad , we send you and your family our sympathy. Love, Roxanne, Charlie & Wills Mitchell Rose,
Sorry to hear about your Dad , we send you and your family our sympathy.

Love,

Roxanne, Charlie & Wills Mitchell

]]> By: Weekly Meanderings « The Way of a Pilgrim http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-308 Weekly Meanderings « The Way of a Pilgrim Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:01:08 +0000 http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/#comment-308 [...] NT Wright and Bart Ehrman Blogalogue about theodicy 2. Rose Madrid-Swetman has a conversation with Rob Bell about women in ministry 3. Paul Verhoeven (the director of Robocop, Basic Instinct, Starship [...] [...] NT Wright and Bart Ehrman Blogalogue about theodicy 2. Rose Madrid-Swetman has a conversation with Rob Bell about women in ministry 3. Paul Verhoeven (the director of Robocop, Basic Instinct, Starship [...]

]]> By: Making Room for Women’s Voices http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-302 Making Room for Women’s Voices Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:25:10 +0000 http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/#comment-302 [...] Rob Bell on the subject of women in ministry. She summarized the interview on her blog - here. But there were a couple of parts that really stood out to [...] [...] Rob Bell on the subject of women in ministry. She summarized the interview on her blog – here. But there were a couple of parts that really stood out to [...]

]]> By: Idealism and Shame « SpiritFarmer http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-301 Idealism and Shame « SpiritFarmer Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:04:15 +0000 http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/#comment-301 [...] and Shame Posted on April 23, 2008 by steve lewis There have been some quite lively discussions going on in various blogs I track  lately.  Mostly over gender issues in the [...] [...] and Shame Posted on April 23, 2008 by steve lewis There have been some quite lively discussions going on in various blogs I track  lately.  Mostly over gender issues in the [...]

]]> By: Rose http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-299 Rose Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:44:18 +0000 http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/#comment-299 Carol, Eugene's post is a great dialogue, it included men and women. I appreciate him leading a discussion. I think I heard he might be hosting some forums on this at Quest. Beth, I do remember you. I would love to hear what you are up to. Thanks for stopping by. Jim, yep you just keeping doing "something" moving forward. Thanks Carol,
Eugene’s post is a great dialogue, it included men and women. I appreciate him leading a discussion. I think I heard he might be hosting some forums on this at Quest.

Beth, I do remember you. I would love to hear what you are up to. Thanks for stopping by.

Jim, yep you just keeping doing “something” moving forward. Thanks

]]> By: Beth http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-298 Beth Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:57:43 +0000 http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/#comment-298 Rose, I don't know if you remember me, but I am the girl from Texas who met with you last summer over a Greek salad! Our visit was brief, but simply listening to your story encouraged, blessed and challenged me in many ways. Interestingly, our chat made me feel normal; that these crazy passions to lead, to preach and reach people are not just the domain of men. The lack of role models can really mess with your head! Anyway, I left Seattle with newfound courage to follow God into new and scary places. I just wanted to stop in and tell you how much I appreciate this post and the leadership you bring to this ongoing conversation. Keep talking! Rose,

I don’t know if you remember me, but I am the girl from Texas who met with you last summer over a Greek salad! Our visit was brief, but simply listening to your story encouraged, blessed and challenged me in many ways.

Interestingly, our chat made me feel normal; that these crazy passions to lead, to preach and reach people are not just the domain of men. The lack of role models can really mess with your head! Anyway, I left Seattle with newfound courage to follow God into new and scary places.

I just wanted to stop in and tell you how much I appreciate this post and the leadership you bring to this ongoing conversation.

Keep talking!

]]> By: Jim Henderson http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-297 Jim Henderson Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:38:10 +0000 http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/#comment-297 we'll just keep going - doing more of the same Lots of fun - huh? we’ll just keep going – doing more of the same

Lots of fun – huh?

]]> By: Ellen http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-289 Ellen Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:12:47 +0000 http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/#comment-289 Rose, i have not had a chance to listen to the podcast yet...can't wait to do that. But I loved how you worked at setting up the meeting time with Rob...so smart! I found Rob's remarks interesting and revealing, "then he told me that we (women) should not go where we are not welcome". In part, that kind of makes sense, but if you look at other significant social shifts where there was a power imbalance and injustice, there always had to be a group of people who stood up and gave the prophetic critique regarding the structures...not just shrug and walk away and find where they are welcome. That is the really hard, painful, and sometimes very confusing work of bringing significant structural change that backs up a shift in theology. Thank you for your voice Rose! Rose,

i have not had a chance to listen to the podcast yet…can’t wait to do that. But I loved how you worked at setting up the meeting time with Rob…so smart! I found Rob’s remarks interesting and revealing, “then he told me that we (women) should not go where we are not welcome”. In part, that kind of makes sense, but if you look at other significant social shifts where there was a power imbalance and injustice, there always had to be a group of people who stood up and gave the prophetic critique regarding the structures…not just shrug and walk away and find where they are welcome. That is the really hard, painful, and sometimes very confusing work of bringing significant structural change that backs up a shift in theology.

Thank you for your voice Rose!

]]> By: Rose http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-288 Rose Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:45:53 +0000 http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/#comment-288 BTW - I do remember those days. OMG we would be so mad. Some would still have problems with Jim not giving enough space to women, which I get...when you are on the inside of the structure it is very hard. I appreciate that Jim genuinely "tries" to get it because he does believe it has to change. He might not get it to the degree some would like to see but I know it is more than tricky to navigate these waters...we've come a long way in a very short time. Jim was one of the first men with a platform to say, we are going to model "getting past permission" and get the stories of what women are doing. I am thankful for Jim and Brian and a host of other men of whom when you hear their names you don't think "champion of women" but I know they have resolved to use their influence and power to make space for women where there was no space and for that I am very thankful. BTW – I do remember those days. OMG we would be so mad. Some would still have problems with Jim not giving enough space to women, which I get…when you are on the inside of the structure it is very hard. I appreciate that Jim genuinely “tries” to get it because he does believe it has to change. He might not get it to the degree some would like to see but I know it is more than tricky to navigate these waters…we’ve come a long way in a very short time. Jim was one of the first men with a platform to say, we are going to model “getting past permission” and get the stories of what women are doing. I am thankful for Jim and Brian and a host of other men of whom when you hear their names you don’t think “champion of women” but I know they have resolved to use their influence and power to make space for women where there was no space and for that I am very thankful.

]]> By: Rose http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/comment-page-1/#comment-287 Rose Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:37:53 +0000 http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/04/16/an-evening-with-rob-bell-doug-pagitt-and-todd-hunter/#comment-287 Rachelle, I want to thank you more than you can even imagine for this. These decisions are complicated and the navigation of when to use your voice, when to go along with the status quo and when to just plain agitate the system are all very tricky. I really, really try to be obedient to Jesus and that's the best I can do. I so appreciate you and all the courage you have exercised in walking the path before you. You are one of my heroes. Rachelle,
I want to thank you more than you can even imagine for this. These decisions are complicated and the navigation of when to use your voice, when to go along with the status quo and when to just plain agitate the system are all very tricky. I really, really try to be obedient to Jesus and that’s the best I can do.

I so appreciate you and all the courage you have exercised in walking the path before you. You are one of my heroes.

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