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	<title>Comments on: Change, Power, Access</title>
	<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/</link>
	<description>Random Thoughts, Stories of Life, and Questions About the Journey.</description>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
		<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/#comment-356</link>
		<author>Charlotte</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 22:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go to the Assemblies of God Theological Seminary in Springfield, MO.  I'm working on a M.A. in Theological Studies with a concentration in Biblical languages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go to the Assemblies of God Theological Seminary in Springfield, MO.  I&#8217;m working on a M.A. in Theological Studies with a concentration in Biblical languages.</p>
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		<title>By: rose</title>
		<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/#comment-355</link>
		<author>rose</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deb thanks for the encouragement

Charlotte, where are you in seminary?  

welcome both of you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb thanks for the encouragement</p>
<p>Charlotte, where are you in seminary?  </p>
<p>welcome both of you</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
		<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/#comment-354</link>
		<author>Charlotte</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Deb's comment; I am so glad I found your blog! I wandered over here via Jesus Creed and your recent post on pastor's wisdom.  As a 22 year old woman who's on the journey of becoming a pastor (I just finished my first year of seminary!), I've been looking all over the place for women in pastoral leadership to look up to and perhaps get advice from.  Thank you so much for this blog.

Oh, I think it's so cool you got to meet and converse with Rob Bell. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Deb&#8217;s comment; I am so glad I found your blog! I wandered over here via Jesus Creed and your recent post on pastor&#8217;s wisdom.  As a 22 year old woman who&#8217;s on the journey of becoming a pastor (I just finished my first year of seminary!), I&#8217;ve been looking all over the place for women in pastoral leadership to look up to and perhaps get advice from.  Thank you so much for this blog.</p>
<p>Oh, I think it&#8217;s so cool you got to meet and converse with Rob Bell. <img src='http://rosemadridswetman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/#comment-343</link>
		<author>Deb</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have NO idea how encouraging it was for me to stumble on to your blog and to "meet" others who are being compelled into the pastorate and happen to have ovaries. :)

Thanks for your thoughtful post -- I'll be wandering back here, I'm sure.

peace
Deb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have NO idea how encouraging it was for me to stumble on to your blog and to &#8220;meet&#8221; others who are being compelled into the pastorate and happen to have ovaries. <img src='http://rosemadridswetman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughtful post &#8212; I&#8217;ll be wandering back here, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>peace<br />
Deb</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Morehead</title>
		<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/#comment-340</link>
		<author>Dan Morehead</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 15:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's sad this is still an issue...just passing through, but like the blog...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad this is still an issue&#8230;just passing through, but like the blog&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ravine of Light &#187; All Things Crash Together For Good</title>
		<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/#comment-331</link>
		<author>Ravine of Light &#187; All Things Crash Together For Good</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Enough.  You can also find some excellent words on power sharing by Makeesha here and here and  Change, Power, Access by Rose Madrid-Swetman.  I think Kathy Escobar may have started it all with Auntie Kathy, Are You [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Enough.  You can also find some excellent words on power sharing by Makeesha here and here and  Change, Power, Access by Rose Madrid-Swetman.  I think Kathy Escobar may have started it all with Auntie Kathy, Are You [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/#comment-327</link>
		<author>Rose</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 20:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good point Kathy.  I personally think that co-pastoring in the truest sense is a good leadership model.  Especially male female co-pastoring.  I agree, it doesn't work for everyone, but I think that you and Karl give a good look at how it can work outside of a married couple.  I am not aware of many examples in our tradition where a male and female are co-leading in every sense are you?  Have you had any guides?

I don't think many married couples really do co-lead in the true reality of what it means...I think more and more young people are ready for a model of "shared leadership" with visible equality and mutual submission between female and male leaders are working together.

Hope all is well at the Refuge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good point Kathy.  I personally think that co-pastoring in the truest sense is a good leadership model.  Especially male female co-pastoring.  I agree, it doesn&#8217;t work for everyone, but I think that you and Karl give a good look at how it can work outside of a married couple.  I am not aware of many examples in our tradition where a male and female are co-leading in every sense are you?  Have you had any guides?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think many married couples really do co-lead in the true reality of what it means&#8230;I think more and more young people are ready for a model of &#8220;shared leadership&#8221; with visible equality and mutual submission between female and male leaders are working together.</p>
<p>Hope all is well at the Refuge</p>
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		<title>By: kathyescobar</title>
		<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/#comment-326</link>
		<author>kathyescobar</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think co-pastoring/shared leadership models something truly beautiful in the kingdom--sharing, equality, diversity &#38; diffusion of power. i'm not saying everyone should copastor, it wouldn't work for all systems, but i'd love to see more people try it (especially those that aren't married because that still keeps so many women out of the equation) because it represents some of our dreams for men &#38; women working alongside each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think co-pastoring/shared leadership models something truly beautiful in the kingdom&#8211;sharing, equality, diversity &amp; diffusion of power. i&#8217;m not saying everyone should copastor, it wouldn&#8217;t work for all systems, but i&#8217;d love to see more people try it (especially those that aren&#8217;t married because that still keeps so many women out of the equation) because it represents some of our dreams for men &amp; women working alongside each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Clawson</title>
		<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/#comment-320</link>
		<author>Julie Clawson</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 00:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points here.  What gets me is that often in this discussion women are accused of demanding power and rights.  Such things are seen as bad and therefore the discussion is dismissed before it is ever begun.  How hard would it be for the guys to instead of accusing us of such things (be it true or not), just experiment with giving up their power and rights for awhile?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points here.  What gets me is that often in this discussion women are accused of demanding power and rights.  Such things are seen as bad and therefore the discussion is dismissed before it is ever begun.  How hard would it be for the guys to instead of accusing us of such things (be it true or not), just experiment with giving up their power and rights for awhile?</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://rosemadridswetman.com/2008/05/01/change-power-access/#comment-319</link>
		<author>Rose</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 21:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adey,
Good questions and so much to think about.  I think the way forward, for "real" change to take place will take risk, courage, prayer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adey,<br />
Good questions and so much to think about.  I think the way forward, for &#8220;real&#8221; change to take place will take risk, courage, prayer&#8230;</p>
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